9.19.2013

Big Brother 15 Houseguests Fired: McCrae Comments

Big Brother 15 Houseguests Fired From Jobs
McCrae learns BB15 houseguests were fired
During a post Big Brother 15 finale interview, McCrae Olsen learns that his fellow houseguests have been fired from their jobs. He is shocked, and he thinks they should own up to their actions and words.

ET: Well, Aaryn, GinaMarie and Spencer have been fired from their jobs for what they said in the house. 
McCrae: What? Are you sh*tting me? [laughs] Oh wow. Oh wow. I don't want to call any of them out, but I think Aaryn says the worst stuff. Oh man, they're all pretty bad though. It's ignorance across the board. You can't let ignorant people have a free pass because they're ignorant, but we were scrutinized 24/7. Sometimes you have to give people a free pass because I don't think most of it came from a place of hate, just a place of ignorance. [ETOnline]

Was Spencer actually fired? I think people have taken that and ran with it, but he's not been fired from what I have seen. He's in a union, I still don't think he'll be fired. Oh, you pesky internet rumors.

I love how McCrae says, "I don't want to call anyone out, BUT....AARYN!"

Do you agree with McCrae, ignorance, not hatred?

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  1. Well, Spencer said that his union was trying to save his job, so I think he may be "in review." People think he was fired because the company said he didn't currently work for them, but that's just a play on words - just like with Andy's job at the college. Of course, the weren't currently working for them. They are on Big Brother. lol

    Anyway...

    The most stunning thing about this article is that McCrae made complete sentences without saying "Yea, um, I dunno, like..." over and over again. BRAVO, McCrae, BRAVO!

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  2. Are you kidding me? McCrae needs to take a look in the mirror. McCrae, were you unaware of the live feeds? There are plenty of youtube compilations of you yourself saying racist/unnecessary hateful things. The ONLY way you will be able to deny what you said is if you become a recluse. Don't bother with excuses either. We wont buy it. Grow up and learn some social skills. What you did was not game play. Ask any previous BB player. No one will agree with that nonsense.

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    1. Stephney, you're ridiculous. Get over yourself. McCrae isn't a bigot.

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    2. Was wondering how long it would take to nlame McCrae.

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    3. Watch the live feeds,moron. Mcrasty is a total bigot.

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    4. McCrae was/is not a bigot, racist, or anything similar. The show is over, life goes on. Can we stop the rabies epidemic now? Enough is enough. Nothing any of these houseguests can say or do will ever be enough to calm the mobs. Get over it already. geez.

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    5. I would like a quote for what McCrae said that was racist. This was the year of pointing out everything anyone said, but I never heard McCrae's quotes.

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    6. McCraes far from racist some of these freaks are grasping onto straws, I totally agree with what he said above. Geez if I say I love mexican night does that make me racist too? Seriously ridiculous! Everyone talked shit this year, even everyone's precious Elissa so get over it.But trying to say it's all racism and not ignorance is being ignorant yourself
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    7. Watch the live feeds ya morons.

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    8. Mcrae said and I quote.Asian girls like to *&(( with their eyes closed and blacks like to take it in the ear. Unquote. These were two of the numerous quotes.

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    9. "Plenty of youtube compilations?" Good thing you aren't under oath. I have missed every single one of these may "compilations." There were a couple for Aaryn, as she was entertaining the house with her outright racist anti-Asian mimicry), then when her mom hired a PR firm, a couple suddenly appeared for Amanda, by a person who had never posted a thing before, followed by a Huff Post article (the reprint stuff from other publications).

      Then there was a big one that tried to include what wveryone said...I don't think they had a thing from McCrae. I saw him shut down Amanda, but never heard him say a thing, and I always had the feeds on him and Amanda in the evenings. Nothing. Zip. He was the voice of reason when the right wing racist fools started making their slurs and jokes., yapping about Hitler, the Illuminati, all sorts of conspiracy theories only Southerners avow, out loud anyway.

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    10. hes a waste of human flesh like the rest of the BB15 parasites

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  3. Whether it be ignorance or hatred it's still hurtful. And ppl should b accountable for their actions. I'm really tired of the "I didn't know any better" excuse.

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  4. AMANDA WAS FIRED TOO!!! CBS...NOT SURE WHY THERE IS SO MUCH PROTECTION FOR THE BIGGEST BIGGOT IN THE HOUSE!!!

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    1. Amanda is self-employed you dweeb. She might not be associated with a particular realtor firm but she is still licensed to sell houses.

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    2. She was not fired. She is self employed and is affiliated with a family business. Check facts, not tabloids

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    3. Amanda is nasty. That is a fact.

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    4. And that is your opinion, and it affects you how? I'm sure that she doesn't care one bit what you think of her. Get a life.

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    5. I honestly dont think she's racist. She said a lot of things for shock value trying to be funny. But she can't be surprised that people hang on everything they say.

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    6. Let me help you out here...In FL the state licenses real estate...salesperson, broker, offices, etc. Amanda has a FL real estate salesperson license and she cannot conduct any real estate business unless she a works under a licensed broker. Amanda put her real estate license into an inactive status before she entered BB15 and that license is still inactive today. So in reality Amanda wasn't fired because she wasn't licensed to work...her license is inactive. No one can take her license away except the FL Real Estate Commission operating under the states laws.

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    7. Close but not totally accurate. Amanda's license was changed to inactive after her agency dropped her for behavior on BB and that is when her web page was taken down. Yes she worked for her Mom under an agency broker relationship. She was dropped from her agency so that is fired and I doubt she will find an agency to pick her up. Her problem may be worse as it was her mouth and her behavior.

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  5. Omg.. Everyone suck it up nobody is perfect and everyone can be ignorant at times just takes the right person to bring it out its just that it BB its a big deal?? Unreal

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  6. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS? SPENCER WAS NOT FIRED FROM HIS UNION JOB! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

    My understanding though, is, that Amanda was let go by the realty co her mom works for.. she worked for her mom but the realty co her mom worked for removed amanda's name from their roster and disassociated themselves with her..

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    1. According to her family, they just removed her contact info since she was not actively participating--she was in the house. The franchisor cannot fire her, they cannot "remove" her employment.

      Real estate agents, such as Amanda, get "listings" from people who wish to sell their homes and put up a sign. They advertize their services for buyers, and try to match those buyers to listings of their own and other agents/brokers on the Multiple Listing Service. When either their buyers want to buy something, or someone offers to buy from their sellers, they make offers, negotiate, prepare paperwork and collect half the commission. Things I'd bet Amanda rocks at doing.

      Because she is only an agent, not a broker, she must get a broker (her mom is a broker and probably rents her office space and services) to sign off on her activities, and give the broker a portion of her commission. Her mom OWNS A FRANCHISE of that large real estate conglomerate....her mom runs it herself, they don't interfere with what agents she works with. They cannot "fire" or "remove" Amanda. And her mom loves and stands by her daughter. Her family took her page down and helped her put her license to inactive status--BECAUSE OF THE HATERS WHO ABUSE THE ABILITY TO CONTACT EITHER THE COMPANY HER MOM OWNS A FRANCHISE OF OR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. Methods created for people hurt by dishonest agents or brokers...consumer protection services abused by idiots unhappy with a TV show! People like those who post here...who cannot differentiate between a TV reality show and bad behavior on a job. They attack any HG they dislike as though they are victims of malpractice, not unhappy couch potatoes. It is such a time-consuming bore to deal with these fools, Amanda's family had to take listings down, make her license inactive, so you people can't pretend to have complaints related to their employment. Get it?

      And please remember, Amanda and the rest were not convicted of any crimes. Crimes of moral turpitude or felonies...which the law limits employers to firing or refusing to hire based on. Theft or dishonesty dealing with clients. That's why job applications ask you about those. Unless they are expressly hired under an at-will employment contract, or their contracts say they must live up to specific criteria (GM's probably does as they work with minors and titles, all in the public arena where reputations matter. Aaryn's modeling for a magazine probably required things as she publicly represented them, and the agency was likely "at will." They reserved the right to drop her any time, and did.

      As for Spencer, he said he would probably suspended for awhile, maybe a month. He said this within a day of the finale, so he must have known he had acted in a way to get in trouble. But there are union rules. What should hurt him the most are the continual drug references--he's already been in some trouble, as he had to go through rehab. You don't get unlimited tries when you are in businesses that transport people and things....the risk is too great. So the union won't be able to shield him from all his activities. Unless he was making it all up...

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  7. Omg.. Everyone suck it up nobody is perfect and everyone can be ignorant at times just takes the right person to bring it out its just that it BB its a big deal?? Unreal

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  8. oh and let's clarify something.. Aaryn was NOT the culprit of most of the racist remarks... it was mostly Gina Marie.. the slut / drug addict Amanda had PLENTY of racist remarks herself.. and as for the misogynistic hate remarks, McCrae, Judd, Andy, Spencer and sadly some of the girls (GM and Amanda) constantly referred to Elissa and Candice, with hate in their tone, as "fking c*nts".. day in and day out we had to listen to this.. McCrae and Amanda were right there at the top of the list too.

    Why did Elissa win AFP? Because we had 24/7 live feed and while we watched her wearing rubber gloves literally SCRUBBING the bathroom, washing their towels and folding them (so they had a clean towel to reach for every day), she cooked their meals, washed their dishes.. and while she did this, they spent HOURS UPON HOURS calling her an 'elitest' and a 'c*nt'..

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    1. Yes, for all those exact reasons this show was excruciatingly hard to watch. And what was with Andy constantly picking, rubbing, scratching, doing who knows what with the front of his shorts pacticaly every single moment of air time he was given....and he was given way too many airtime moments.

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    2. I love love love Elissa.

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    3. Just because your in a union doesnt mean your job is safe dah

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    4. Has anyone ever heard a person or group,
      use C-U-Next-Tuesday,
      as much as they heard it used by the cast of BB15?

      There is a time & a place for everything, and there surely are occasions that the word is fitting to use, regarding something or someone, but to have it roll of the BB15 House Guests tongues as easily & frequently, was a true testament to the acidity of their individual nature.

      In an Amanda interview, she replies, "because I'm a strong woman" - Really?

      We were unaware that a sign of a strong woman was to exclaim to others that you are going to "murder" someone - repeating such speech several times, in the smallest of situations.

      Stopping here, because only with the publication of a book, having each contestant with their own chapter, can the absurd language & actions of Andy Herren, Amanda Zuckerman, Gina Marie Zimmerman, Aaryn Gries, Spencer Clawson, Jeremy McGuire, etc., can be displayed & highlighted in full detail.

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    5. All true bout Elissa being kind & cleaning while they bitched bout her.

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    6. Yes Andy picking at his crotch every 20min was annoying & gross on feeds.Buy some bigger shorts !!! Spencer picking his nose was too gross too !!!

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    7. Aaryn WAS the person making most of the slurs and the reason the show received so much negative publicity. She held court several times, adopting a bad Asian accent, talking about Helen should be making rice, nail salons, and "happy endings" at massage parlors. It was hideously racist, a real shock to watch. Once in the kitchen for all those seated around the island bar, and another time out on the backyard couches. She made other slurs beginning within a few days of the feeds beginning, with David, then the others in her little group. Against blacks, then Asians. Then she took it to the whole house. GM shared the ugly comments about Helen, and made her "n" insurance comment, but she was more sly. As for Amanda, every one of her racial comments was an attempt at humor, even if a terribly bad attempt. She never made racial slurs at specific people, as did GM and Aaryn. Her comments were not in the same class.

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  9. I agree, also if Andy isnt fired, he should be. (Even if unfortunately he no longer needs this job) He was the biggest hater in the house, and who needs a hater of that magnitude influencing their kids. Always prefering to take the game winning, vote getting, route of obsseivly spewing tons of vile hate on people only behind their turned backs and never person to person where they could actually identify him as the slimmy rat coward that he truely was and not vote for him.

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    1. Andy's employment should be totally dependent on his performance on the job, not what he said trying to win money on a reality show. There is a huge difference. He is very highly rated as a teacher. To throw away someone because of a few comments--he did NOT make racial slurs with the others, he just failed to speak up. He has apologized to the HGs he attacked verbally. The house plays with people's psyches, and the only power they retain to deal with negative emotions is trashtalking they rivals. If they don't take it racial, and they don't take it out of the house or direct it at children, they are doing well. Non-participants only have the rightful power to post their dislike and to turn it off, not attack jobs, families, etc. There is a huge difference! Viewers who don't understand the difference between posting their disgust on a website and trying to cause someone to lose their job need professional help.

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  10. Spencer should be fired because of his numerous confessions of drug use and sleeping on the job! THIS should be the number one reason. Im less concerned about his foul mouth than the fact he is performing his job on a train high or asleep.

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    1. I agree with this Anonymous. If he is going to have is responsibilty the Cocaine and such needs to be checked randomly...

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  11. 9/19/13, 1:12pm Is so right on.... My husband and I have watched form BB #1.- #15. If this BB #15. would have been the #1 we never would have watched #2nd BB. or any for that matter.
    Amanda drug addict, slut, and will never get it. Her family should be so ashamed, or was that her up bringing?!
    Yes, I fell that Elissa should have receive the AFP for all the cleaning she did after the slobs.

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  12. I was watching the live feeds when most if not all the racial comments were made. During the mattress tossing incident I cried along with Candice because I felt her pain. But there is something I really need answered. Each person that made racial comments I was convinced at the time those comments came from a place of hate for African Americans . Yet these same people spoke all the time about enjoying and liking Rap music. The artist they would name were Black. Yet they loved their music and seemed to love the artist. How is that possible? Or am I missing something and these two things have noting to do with each other. Needless to say I was & still confused by their actions. By the way I am a Black Female.

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    1. IMO, racism isn't just a prejudice against a particular race (or races), but it also includes using a persons race to make derogatory comments. With this theory, it is possible to like people of another race (i.e. the rappers the HGs stated they liked) and still make racist comments about a person (calling Candice "Shaniqua (sp?)" or the comment about seeing her in the dark). I personally believe, for at least a couple of the HGs, the comments were made out of ignorance. Yes, they were made in hate and just to get under the other's skin (Aaryn: "whatcha gonna do girrrrrrrrllllllll? Whatcha gonna do?"; but I also believe they had no idea what weight such hateful remarks carry. And I am not alone in this, check out Candice's backyard interview with Jeff. She says, while in the jury house, she picked the movie for 'movie night' and she chose "The Help". She said after watching it (or while watching it, maybe) Aaryn asked something along the lines of, "did that really happen?" Candice believes that Aaryn has "lived in a bubble" and her behavior stems from the ignorance that "bubble" created.
      Don't get me wrong, her ignorance in NO way excuses her behavior, but it is nice to see a reason behind her behavior (other than genuine hate for other races). She is still an adult, and she is still accountable for her actions. She has, form my understanding, apologized for her actions, and has learned from the experience, which is a good thing.
      Also, from what I gather, her and Candice have put it in the past. I don't expect them to be best friends forever, but I don't think they are mortal enemies...that seat is reserved for GM, I think (her adoption comments).

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  13. Omg.. Everyone suck it up nobody is perfect and everyone can be ignorant at times just takes the right person to bring it out its just that it BB its a big deal?? Unreal

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  14. Omg.. Everyone suck it up nobody is perfect and everyone can be ignorant at times just takes the right person to bring it out its just that it BB its a big deal?? Unreal

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    1. You don't have to be perfect, but whether you choose to be hostile or friendly, only you make the choice of which words come from your mouth. They didn't accidentally say the things they said; they chose the words and must own the consequences.

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    2. Shut up democrap.

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  15. His employer (Union Pacific Railroad) posted this message online Sept. 18: "Prior to Spencer Clawson being allowed to return from his Leave of Absence to active duty with Union Pacific Railroad, a formal investigation will be held under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement to determine the facts involving Mr. Clawson's behavior on the Big Brother television show and online live feed. Based on the results of the investigation, Union Pacific will determine the appropriate action regarding Mr. Clawson's employment status."

    http://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/2013/spencer_big_brother.shtml

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  16. Omg. These comments are just as bad as the house guests. I think it's the fans that made it the worst season, not just the house guests

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    1. I haven't seen one comment about punching a HG or calling them the "C" word and anything racist at all. Your comment conflating those remarks with the critiques here is half-bakes at best.

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    2. Jack, you're obviously not reading many blogs or Twitter. The fans are much worse than the HGs, by a mile.

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    3. Shut up anonymous.

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    4. Their has been many comments on other sites about physically assaulting the houseguests (even killing and/or raping them) and a BUNCH of name calling. Hate is hate, regardless of form. On this site, a few have called Amanda a slut and a drug addict. Their disdain shines bright in these comments...it is still hate...it is still vile behavior!

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    5. Scroll down a little........

      Racist comment by an anonymous poster:

      "Says the white person. You are the reason whites kill other whites. Stupid stupid stupid."

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    6. How is that a racist comment 1144?

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  17. Calling people names is never nice, however as ADULTS don't we try to teach children that: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!" Everybody needs to just grow up and stop taking EVERY LITTLE THING to heart and just let it roll off their backs!!!! NOT ONE PERSON ON THIS EARTH IS PERFECT, NOT ONE, SO GET OVER IT!!!

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    1. Words do i fact hurt. That little saying is so way off base. Broken bones heal the wounds from words sometimes never heal and lead to children taking thier life. Your correct no one is perfect in this world however to say someone should just "get over it" shows you are very saddly missinformed. Words can and do cut very deep and sometimes people should realize what words do to others and choose wiser.

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    2. What I am saying is that a person really needs to build a strong enough self-esteem to handle whatever comes their way. It is unavoidable that another's opinion (no matter right, wrong, good, or bad), will not match with what another thinks, and so a healthy way to look at it is to teach our children to be strong enough to just get over it!

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    3. Says the white person. You are the reason whites kill other whites. Stupid stupid stupid.

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    4. Sorry for you! You must be miserable. Grow up and move on!

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    5. I am offended for Anonymous 4:07 by what Anonymous 4:12 said. Did 4:07 say they were white? How racist is THAT comment by 4:12? So you too are guilty of being racist, but I am an adult (like the one mentioned by 4:07) and so am fine to let it pass!

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    6. OMG! Hold the press...we just found out why white people kill other white people...it's because of "Anonymous" poster on bigbrotherspice.com. You, my friend should look into a job with the FBI...you just solved 1,000s of murder cases!

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    7. OMG. NO we kill because people like you try to be funny and fall way way flat.

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    8. Yes she said she was white. The comment got deleted. How bout you know what you are talkin about before you hit publish huh?

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    9. Funny thing is, I'm the one who made the original comment, which is still above (9/19 at 3:02pm)and I did NOT state my RACE or SEX! People, people make sure YOU are not the REAL RACIST and SEXIST here!!!! Since when is teaching children to be strong a matter of race or sex?? Ignorant people!!

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    10. Reply to Anonymous 9/20, 10:09...First, don't use the lord God's name in such a hateful statement. Here you are judging the contestants for saying horrible things and then YOU turn around and say much worse. Take a look inside at your hateful ways and judge not lest you be judged.

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  18. As for racial comments...I think you would be hard pressed to find ANYONE who has NEVER used some sort of racial slur, and I'm not talking JUST white people, it comes from ALL walks of life. Move on!

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  19. To the employers doing the firing...is it really necessary for a person to lose their job over what they said? Unless it had a direct bearing on how that person does their job on a daily basis, it really shouldn't matter! I try to be a moral person and I don't agree with most of the behavior or things said, however I do not think what a person says or does on THEIR OWN TIME should be judged by their employer! If they don't break the law and it doesn't affect their job performance, then leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. The person is representing their company ya moron.

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    2. Not on their own time, you misguided fool!

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    3. Maybe not being at work for over three months is a factor. I'd be fired, tv show or not!

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    4. So do employee's sign their lives away to a company they work for? Does everything a person does on their own time REALLY affect their employer? Come on, really? If that were the case we would be holding companies of child molesters or murderers accountable for what their employees have done. We don't, because that would be rediculous, just as anyone holding an employee responsible for everything the company they work for does. I say our society pays too much attention to spreading the blame around. Place it where it belongs...on the person commiting the offense and IF and ONLY if what they did directly affects their job performance should a person's job be on-the-line.

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    5. It is 100% necessary for companies to fire those who violate behavior clauses. Employee conduct outside the workplace that is not in violation of a criminal statute but may otherwise be construed as improper or inappropriate can be grounds for termination if the business is in an employment-at-will state or bound by a morality clause in the employment contract. In an employment-at-will state -- which includes most states in the U.S. -- an employer does not need a reason to fire the employee and is free to do so at any time with or without good reason. In this type of employment arrangement, engaging in immoral or unethical conduct outside the workplace could be grounds for termination if the employer sees it that way. A morality clause is a provision in an employment contract that requires the employee to refrain from sexual impropriety, drug use or other such conduct that could reflect negatively upon the employer

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    6. Anonymous @ 4:58 so are you saying employers SHOULDN'T fire child molesters because they are molesting children on their own time? These comments weren't made in their personal time. They were made in public, for millions of people to see.

      Let's do an example. Let's say you own a restaurant and while your employee is on a national show, let's say they refer to something like "some of these dumb*ss customers need to have spit served in their food". Whether or not she/he is at work at the time, if customers know who they work for, they're going to say "if she feels like that, I'm not going to go to that restaurant anymore". You can say "it doesn't reflect our views" but you're knowingly employing someone who has a problem with the people they serve. You can either fire them and save your business or let them keep their job and lose some customers.

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    7. @Anon 9:06:

      If Spencer was actually a Pedophile this would be a valid point. He is not a pedophile. The hyper scrutiny and hyper awareness surrounding this season that the initial racist comments created is the only reason anyone is taking these comments and blowing them out of proportion.

      For the record. Nonspecific and general Kiddie Porn jokes is frat house, locker room type humor that is admittedly bad taste but goes on all the time. It's clear he meant nothing by it he's apologized. Get over yourself and kindly remove the stick from out of your ass. Go look up comedians who have made jokes about pedophilia, child porn, and the Pope. You'll find it's more common than you think.

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    8. Reply to Anonymous 9:06pm...Do we not live in a country whose law is "Innocent until proven guilty"? If a person is truly a pedophile an employer should not have to worry about firing them becuase they would be found guilty in a court of law and lose their job because they are in prison, not because they were being judged for saying an unsavory joke. God help us all! Please, please do not ever take a job as a manager or serve on a jury, for we poor mortals would not survive your wrathful judgement!

      Don't get me wrong, everyone SHOULD try to follow the Golden Rule, which is to "Do unto others as you would have done to you." The problem here is that if we continue down this path of destroying lives over what really amounts to bad judgement, then we will all need to wire our jaws shut because you can't please everyone and there will always be someone offended by what is being said. We have much bigger issues to deal with in this world than worrying about every little remark or offense! Turn the other cheek, forgive, forget, and spend your time on something that REALLY matters!

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    9. With most careers, you are ALWAYS are representation of the company you work for, on the clock or not. I can't even begin to count the numerous comments I have seen where people state they would never use the real estate agency Amanda worked for because of her behavior on Big Brother.
      Same for GinaMarie. After the things she said regarding Elissa's child, would you put your child into a beauty pagent she was working on? Would you send them to a dance class at the studio worked at? If she can pick on a kid she has never even met, why would she stop with one she is teaching/working with?
      Aaryn, too. With the mass attention her behavior received (it made INTERNATIONAL headlines), I imagine any talent agency would have a difficult time finding jobs for her, why would you want to have them on your rooster if they are not going to generate revenue?

      It may seem crazy and unfair that a persons behavior off the clock would affect their job, but that's life, baby. Especially with any reputable jobs and business. If they worked at a local grocery store or fast food joint...their employer may not care. It's just the way the world works...lucky you that you can live in a world where this isn't the case....oh to live on planet denial!

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    10. Just as it isn't right that people say things that offend others, it isn't right that it's just "the way world works" when it comes to personal behavior off the clock. It is not that I live on planet denial, it is that I am making a point that there is something elementally wrong with the fact that a boss or company can dictate what we do in our personal lives! We have laws to take care of the major stuff, so our employers don't need to judge my PERSONAL, NON-BUSINESS activities. Something is seriously wrong with this thought process when you think it is okay!

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    11. The business owner is looking out for the best interest of its business. Why is that so hard for you to grasp. I find nothing wrong with that at all. If I hired you to work for me and on your off time you frequent bars and spew racial comments all night long and the patrons be like look that's anonymous doesn't she work for so and so? You bet your sweet skippy id fire you. You are accountable to my business reputation the SECOND I hire you. If you cannot agree then I suggest you work for yourself and then all your stupidity will fall on you and only you.

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    12. Most companies have a code of ethics clause that both parties sign. It makes total sense to fire someone for actin a fool any time.

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    13. I agree to a point. but they chose to go on t.v. have everything they said exposed n placed out there. it was their own stupidity that caused their consequences. do i think their wrong. yes. because the fact remains they chose to make comments about race. the c. u .n. t word or just n general name calling is nothing new to bb. but comments bout someones kid n a foul way is overstepping that fine line

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  20. Do you suggest that they are no longer employed by the company when they clock out? Go back to the gutter ya ho.

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    1. So are you representing your company right now or are you unemployed due to your wonderful use of the English language?

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    2. I thought I told you to go back to the gutter???

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    3. So much hate! Who is REALLY the problem here? Really quite sad. Hope your employer isn't listening to YOUR hateful language, for you might not have a job!

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  21. As horrible as this season was, the fans have made it MUCH worse. It seems that all the HG's have forgiven those responsible so why do the fans still want blood? Fans want them to lose jobs...why? So the public can support them? Get over yourselves. The show is over and life goes on. For future reference, if you are watching a show that offends you...change the damn channel.

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  22. How ironic is it that we are commenting on a program called Big Brother and companies firing their employees based on actions outside the workplace, in a "Big Brother" kind of move. I personally find it scary and it just goes to show you that even in our "FREE COUNTRY" we are not really FREE. We are suppose to have the right to freedom of speech and yet the players of the Big Brother game are being held accountable to their employers for personal opinions, regardless if they are right or wrong. Wake up America! Are we free or not?

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    1. As with everything in life, it is a matter of degree. I agree that normally, it is no employer's business what we say off the job. We should have a zone of privacy.

      However, along with that, we have a responsibility not to go on the public airwaves and say things that directly deride our employers business. GM did that when she called Elissa's son a number of ugly racialo slurs and attacked his appearance. She was employed as a pageant coordinator for children's pageants! It would be terribly wrong to force them to retain such a person who has destroyed her own ability to credibly work with their clients. Had she said such a thing to her family, in her home, it would be different. Aaryn was specifically employed by a magazine as a spokesperson. Her contract probably required her to maintain a good self-image and allowed them to fire her for anything she did or said that damaged their business of selling magazines. The issue with her agency is more complicated and would depend on her contract. But these people were in the public eye, representing their employers, and the law recognizes the employers' interest to require their employees to act in their best interests. It is very different if you work at a desk, and your employer tries to control what you say to friends, family, or your political activities. The extremes are clear, and the fuzzy middle areas end up before the Supreme Court. ;)

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  23. We have speech free of federal control. Not necessarily free to stay employed regardless of what we say.

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    1. CorryK you are missing the point, do you want to be judged by EVERYTHING you say? Are you that perfect? I really doubt that you have never complained about your job or a co-worker or anything for that matter. Do you really believe that a person's livelihood should be jeopardized over some off-hand comments? Not saying they are right by talking the way they did, but why not a reprimand and public apology instead of hanging them out to dry.

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    2. I, for one, try not to hold grudges or wish ill-will on anyone, regardless of what they have done. But in the case of Aaryn, GinaMarie, Spencer, and Amanda, their actions should have consequences when it comes to their careers.
      Aaryn- her behavior would make it difficult for her talent agency to find work for her to do, making it difficult for them to collect their portion of the money from jobs she takes, meaning they are not making money off of her...the whole reason talent agencies exist (to get jobs for people and to take a cut of the money made from said jobs).
      GinaMarie - I, as a mother, would have a difficult time trusting her with my child after her behavior in the house. Her job focused on children (both in pagents and her dance studio). And the fact that two of my kids are adopted just drives that home a little farther. I would NEVER put my children in any pagent she was coordinating or affiliated with given her adoption comments to and about Candice and her comments about Elissa's eight-year-old son and her step children. That most certainly affects her employer.
      Spencer- He stated on several occasions that he did drugs and slept on the job...he is a TRAIN CONDUCTOR and he admitted to SLEEPING ON THE JOB....because that is totally safe!
      Amanda- numerous commenters have stated they wouldnt buy a house from any realty company Amanda worked for...affecting her job.

      While I am not CorryK, I want to answer your first question. No, I don't want to be judged for everything I say. We all make mistakes, but for the majority of the population, the things we way only reach a small number of people. The houseguests were fully aware of the 24/7 feeds, and the public's access to the feeds. For the most part, they watched the show prior to being on it, and knew full well the microscope under which their behavior would be viewed (Jeff's gay comments). When they agreed to come on the show, they knew public scrunity was a part of it. They knew they would be judged for their behavior.
      I don't think their whole world should come crashing down around them because of three months spent in a house with a bunch of cameras, but their behavior, because of the large platform they were on, will (or would, I guess)have an effect on their job performance. Should their employers risk their companies and their livelihoods (as well as all their other employee's livelihoods) to keep these people on their payrolls?

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  24. Omg.. Everyone suck it up nobody is perfect and everyone can be ignorant at times just takes the right person to bring it out its just that it BB its a big deal?? Unreal

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  25. This initially started by McNasty learning about the HGs remarks and/or firing. What was his response to his beloved BBwife was the Worst???

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  26. Wow people there was real pain felt in that house. We saw candice and howard extremely hurt.and emotionally affected by this. I am not sure what helen actually was aware of what was being said towards her. But it personally upset me to see and hear this. I do not know if mccrae did say things never heatd it will not say he did. But arryn was not the only one. There was talking about raping elissa by gm andy to me that was violance towards women. Bullying that is not acceptable it was a year of people saying and doing things that are just intolerable I just pray that people will learn and open up their minds and
    hearts and stop the ignorance.

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    1. It really is ignorance that drives such comments, however let's not make Candice out to be just a victim, for she too used racial names like redneck towards her fellow house guests. Two wrongs do not make a right, but I for one am sick of whites being the only "racists" it crosses through all ethnic groups. Everyone just needs to stop it!

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    2. True, Candice made some comments about white people. More appauling for me, was her calling GM fat on live television...GM has suffered from an eating disorder for years. They ENTIRE house was talking about on the days leading up to Candice's eviction...I was shocked by what she said. Then GM started on the whole at least my mom wanted me bit and I didnt feel so bad for her...although I am sure it was coming from a place of hurt...still disgusting

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    3. I agree, the ENTIRE household was filled with a bunch of idiots that said a lot of hurtful, stupid things. Let's be sure to share the blame and not just pin it on a few! Some were much worse than others, but wrong is wrong no matter who you are.

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  27. IanTerryForMayor9/19/13, 10:18 PM

    First. McCrae did not say anything remotely racist.

    I excuse his behaviour because he is self admittedly a coward (his interview with Julie). The fact that he stood there silently and did not say anything makes him guilty by association but it does not make him a racist or even a supporter of racist ideals.

    The only thing McCrae is guilty of is using negative and slightly degrading language towards a self righteous, holier than thou, pompous, narcissistic, elitist, completely bonkers and totally air headed excuse me for offending all the women of the world Bitch. And this is Big Brother. McCrae is hardly the first person to call a woman a cunt in the BB house or to talk dirtily and negatively about someone behind their back in big brother. No one else has been so excruciatingly crucified for doing so. SO my question to those of you being the typical BB crazies (fans) people like Dr Will and Evel Dick hate so much is why all of a sudden now? Is it only because you didn't like his gameplay or you didn't like Amanda? Don't take your anger out on McCrae and accuse him of doing things that he never did.

    So Shove off psychos.

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  28. NO I do not, I seen it and heard it, and boy it was hate after hate after hate, And McCrae was part of it also, so he is as guilty as the rest!!!

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  29. No matter what THEY all sat by and made these comments and just laughed it off. Even if you don't say anything, its still not ok to sit back and let others continue when you know its wrong.

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  30. I was not accusing McCrae of doing anything. All I'm saying is Aaryn, GinaMarie and Spencer are the only ones that were told to him. Is he aware of ALL the things that his "beloved" Amanda has done & said? It just seems Amanda is not mentioned as much when all of this is being talked about...and she is/was the Worst of ALL!! And her problem wasn't just what she said but her actions as well! I hope ALL of them have learned something about life! Finally I don't understand all the HATRED Andy has about Elissa..and then to cry..I truly love all of you, well I sure didn't see much love from Andy, especially the last couple of weeks. That is where the ole statement comes in.. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer! I wouldn't want or need his type of love!!

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    1. I agree. Andy is truly a vile individual. Now I know why he is so good at lying. He does it on a daily basis. I am begining to think he has some really deep hate issues that he has kept covered up his whole life. The fact he is such a coward plays into that as well. I think that was his ONLY truthful statement. Even when all is said and done, to say "I truly love you all!" with such a clear open face was disingenuous. I have zero respect and huge disgust for this person.

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  31. They're only ignorant regarding the definition of "Ignorant". It's a common phrase in the United States, "Ignorance is no excuse" - Get it? Therefore, anything they've said down the line, from Aaryn, Amanda, Spencer, and for dang sure, Andy... None of them have no excuse, and sure as heck should not be provided further attention, nor' admiration on any level by the public or entertainment industry.

    Let it be a lesson to all.

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  32. Andy's Big Brother Back Yard interview with Schroeder, Andy slides blame of inappropriate comments onto anyone but himself, suggesting that he does not condone them.

    Andy's response may hold water to anyone that has not watched the Big Brother Live Feeds, but for those of us who have - We know what Andy has said & done.

    For one, Andy's mouth was worse than disgustingly dirty. The filth & hate comments that came out of Andy's mouth, exactly represents the kind of person that Andy Herren is, on a majorly inappropriate level.

    The public & media cannot lay all the blame on Aaryn, Amanda, Gina Marie & Spencer, although each of them did a darn good job of digging their own holes, and in some cases, shared a shovel & dug together, so for Andy to come out of the Big Brother House under a shining light, simply because he defeated Gina Marie in the end (who could barely talk without biting her own tongue), is completely & utterly ridiculous.

    Andy was extremely hateful, bitter, etc., about Elissa - An obsession fueled by jealousy, envy, bitterness & hate. Andy Herren couldn't shut up about Elissa for more than 60 seconds, without her name being applied to "another reason" he hates & can't stand her. This can be applied to other BB15 House Guests as well, but Elissa acquired the blunt of Andy's character bashing.

    Character Assassination;

    Andy, Gina Marie, and Spencer could of been respectful & quiet, whilst they rode out the remainder of their Big Brother stay, having a sense of peace, understanding & grace,

    but instead spouted many insults, foul language, jabs, jokes, etc., about past & present Big Brother contestants, including Ian (recently made appearance hosting comp #bb15).

    It's just over 24 hours later, since the end of BB15, and so far not one of the House Guest that have been highlighted for their inappropriate words & actions have voluntarily taken accountability for their actions, and worse yet, everyone that they're in contact with has politely left the subject(s) alone, and leaves them with inflated ego as they're patted on the back, "good job".

    "They deserve the money", is what some fans are saying, but the honest truth is, they do not. CBS Big Brother is not giving any of the money away or declaring Andy a winner because they believe they "deserve" it, they're doing so because they (CBS) are contractually obligated to do so, which essentially is a win for the BB15 losers that were cast this season.

    The biggest losers of BB15 are Americans, for not just having to view the absurdity of BB15 HG, but also for the immoral shadow that the BB15 HG have cast upon us, as they've been seen by viewers worldwide.

    No Thanks for the sad representation by the Amanda, Aaryn, Gina Marie, Spencer, and the now infamous, duplicitous snake, Andy Herren.

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  33. I don't think any of the racist remarks come even close to the horrible discusting things the final 4 said about a beautiful young mother who just let her morals be known and was crusified and calling her young son discusting names and by the way all these remarks will be forever on youtube for all to see along with all the sex with and without partners we had to endure

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  34. and by the way am I the only one who heard Spencer say he made the female hobos have sex with him if they wanted to ride his train Gawd where do they find these people thanks to him I can no longer eat butterscoth

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  35. are GM and Nick already married

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  36. Elissas twitter says hey McCrae, how does it feel to be the only 2 not racist?!

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  37. Everyone is wondering why Amanda & McCrae were not called out for their racist and vile comments... well it's because CBS has plans for them to go on Amazing Race and doesn't want to publicize their horrible behavior (and lose ratings)!

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  38. Everyone is wondering why Amanda & McCrae were not called out for their racist and vile comments... well it's because CBS has plans for them to go on Amazing Race and doesn't want to publicize their horrible behavior (and lose ratings)!

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  39. Out of the mouth comes what is truly in the heart. Spicy I would love your blog more if not for the background or the font/colour used against your background, makes it really hard to read :(

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